[rbldnsd] forwarding?

Ronan r.mcglue at qub.ac.uk
Thu Feb 9 17:37:12 MSK 2006


Chris Gabe wrote:
> Hoping I understand your topology correctly:
> 
>   system 1          system 2
> [ SA + bind ] --> [ rbldnsd ]
> 
>          |           system 3
>           \------> [ DNS server for other domains ]

more like
	system 1
	[SA + bind + rbldnsd ]
		
		|		system 2
		 \------> [ DNS domain cache + server ]
> 
> Considering
> [ SA + rbldnsd ] --> [ other DNS ]
> 
> rbldnsd does not forward queries.  It has an NS record but that doesn't 
> forward, it gets returned in the response and leaves it to your resolver 
> to recurse.  I may not have the right terminology but, I've been there, 
> it doesn't do that.  YMMV
pants, yeah thats what i thought.
> I wouldn't use rbldnsd for general name service in any case, you'll run 
> into issues with more esoteric DNS queries.  It's not intended for 
> general DNS, in spite of some bits and pieces that get it half way there.
> 
> As an alternative, consider a small, efficient DNS resolver/caching 
> mechanism designed for that purpose.  dnsmasq is a good choice (I've 
> been there, it *does* do that).  It lets you cache locally, very 
> efficiently, while still being a full name service.
yeah since ive been doing some reading it would appear that this 
outperforms bind considerably
   Just point your
> resolver to it, configure it to go to your existing name server for 
> cache misses.
Thats exactly what I want to do... currently im only running SURBL off 
of rbldnsd but I will probably want to include more in the future. 
Anything else i just want to offload to our domain DNS's
   It will still go off-box for the non-cached DNSBL
> queries, but DNSBL's tend to have ttl's of an hour or more, so that's 
> the exception case (you can even configure it to go direct to rbldnsd 
> for the DNSBL domains, locally or on another ip, if you prefer). 
yeah we rsync twice hourly currently...
> Actually, I'm surprised you notice bind taking up much,
Im not sure it is atm im just eliminating any potential bottlenecks 
before I make a case for new hardware from the boss! ;) but I do think 
the system would benefit from running say dnsmasq, djbdns etc
  compared to
> email scanning, though it certainly is a horse performing a mouse's task 
> if it's just doing the DNS on the SA system. 

yes thats all its doing currently

  bind is overkill for that,
> but SA is, like, a brontosaurus in that case. 
  Assuming it's opening the
> email, which is kind of a given, right?
??

Ronan
> 
> On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Ronan wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>>     I have been using rbldnsd for about a year now serving the SURBL  
>> zones for use with SA. Its been great. I am currently using bind as a 
>> caching NS on the SA machine and was thinking of moving to a more high 
>> performance cache.
>>
>> What im thinking of, and cant seem to find out from the site is 
>> whether  rbldnsd could (running on standard #53 port ) be used to 
>> serve the SURBL zones locally and for any other query forward to our 
>> domain's main NS servers?
>>
>> Thanks IA
>>
>> Ronan
>> --Ronan McGlue
>> Analyst / Programmer
>> CMC Systems Group
>>
>> Queens University Belfast
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Ronan McGlue
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CMC Systems Group

Queens University Belfast


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