[rbldnsd] how to make public (DNS)RBL?

Chris. cth at fastmail.ca
Sun May 17 00:49:54 MSD 2009


On Sat, 16 May 2009 20:42:31 +0000 (UTC), Chris. wrote...

> On Sat, 16 May 2009 12:31:31 -0400, Steven Champeon wrote...
> 
>> on Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:16:18AM +0000, Chris. wrote:
>> 
>> <snip completely unrelated but nevertheless bizarre Javascript story>
>> 
>>> So if I understand you correctly, if any "admins" attempt to use
>>> my system, they'll have no idea whether the lists are good, or bad.
>> 
>> No, if you expect anyone to use it, you need to publish a set of
>> criteria by which you list IPs. Nothing to do with hype - if
>> anything, Jon and Dave and the rest have been trying to point out to
>> you that blocking 1/4 of the Internet isn't a bold claim, it's
>> probably a sensible course to take given million-host botnets, but
>> it's *irrelevant* in the context of this discussion. I could provide
>> you with a DNSBL that lists five hundred thousand IPs, but if they're
>> all legit mail hosts, you'll end up with a high FP rate should you
>> use that list to block inbound mail. Go, now, and read the BCP I
>> sent.
> 
> LOL. Sorry. I'm afraid I've been a bit overburdened lately, and as a
> consequence, I'm a bit detached, and /reactive/ - see; "knee jerk".
> Henceforth, I do solemnly swear to read the responses in these
> threads. Then walk away from the console, and wait no less than 1hr.
> before responding. Gah! Now, in retrospect it all seems so clear. I
> feel terrible, and am very grateful for all the thoughtful responses -
> even tho I didn't recognize all of them.
> 
> ...and now, a direct response to the response(s), as they were
> intended. :) Steven, thank you for the pointer (article) - I
> /actually/ understood that, and I /was/ looking for it. - /really/
> 
> I have read all of it (again) and actually /do/ have a layout - just
> not yet in print. I'll post them (or a link) here today, or early
> tomorrow. Actually, it occurs to me just now, that I'd rather provide
> a bit more /articulated/ version here in response. It'll be a bit
> more terse, as the readers have a better understanding, so I can
> use a different language. Those were "props" to the subscribers here,
> in case it wasn't noticed. :)
> I'm in the middle of a "build session/marathon" as I write this.
> So since it hasn't yet been an hour, I'm going to break it off here,
> and honor my oath, and report back with a /direct/ response to
> the yours (and some of the others like it). Consider this one
> a well deserved apology. :)
> 
> Back in about an hour...
> 
> --Chris
> 
>> 
>> /me resists urge to also school you on DHTML, which is not the same
>> as Javascript, and certainly wasn't around in 1994. ;)

P.S.
...and I'll refrain from the /overwhelming/ urge to rebute your
insinuation to the contrary. ;)

--Chris

>> 
>> At any rate, I think this troll is full to bursting, and we should
>> all just let him go off and sit under another bridge.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
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